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On Dain II Ironfoot: Lord of the Iron Hills and King Under the Mountain

bilbosoaktree:

This has been a long time coming. This is basically Dáin: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Except I’m here to argue that there’s a lot of good, very little bad, and, lbr, even less ugly.

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Look at that face.

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Everyone should read this. It’s a very detailed, and well-thought out thesis on book!Dain and his movie avatar. I have nothing to add except to draw attention to this bit:

Most of the negative opinions of Dáin seem to revolve around the idea that he refused Thorin and company aid when they most needed it, but
then was eager to come cash in on the reward when the dragon was dead and the
mountain retaken. I’d argue that this idea is a very misguided one. I think it’s
very reasonable that Dáin, Lord of a prosperous and happy people in the Iron
Hills, would decline to help on a quest that honestly seems ridiculous. When
the dragon came to Erebor, even an army of Ereborean Dwarves (as depicted in
the movie) couldn’t stop or kill the dragon, and countless Dwarves were killed
in the process. If the dragon were still alive and woken up, the Iron Hills are
close enough to possibly get paid a visit from Smaug. The chance of success is
very low, and the risk extremely high.

As a Tolkien reader, I find this litany highly applicable to all the interesting canon characters that the movies have taken and turned up the inherent or implied qualities of the characters picked to provide foil and counter-foil to the Company of Thorin, in that

“Most of the negative opinions of CHARACTER seem to revolve around the idea… I’d argue that this idea is a very misguided one. I think it’s very reasonable that CHARACTER, reasonreasonreason, would decline to help on a quest that honestly seems ridiculous.”

I am of course, thinking in particular about my personal canon!love, Thranduil the Elvenking. I have dome my share of movie feels and griping, but someday, hopefully soonish, I will put up a proper thesis for Thranduil that does him jusitce, just like bilbosoaktree‘s magnum opus for Dain. For now I will enjoy this piece and thank universityofarda for bringing both blog and post to my attention.

On Dain II Ironfoot: Lord of the Iron Hills and King Under the Mountain

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Reader: The Hobbit. Chapter 18 “The Return Journey”

The Hobbit Book CoverSummary Points

  • Bilbo awoke, by himself, still on Ravenhill.
  • He was found by a searcher, a Man, and apparently hadn’t been found earlier because he had his Ring on.
    • Gandalf certainly trusted in his ability to survive. He had been counted among the dead and the Man was on one last search for him.
    • The Man was clearly a strong healthy guy, he carried Bilbo, at speed, back down to the camp.

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Reader: The Hobbit. Chapter 17 “The Clouds Burst”

The Hobbit Book Cover

Summary Points

  • Early the next day, banner standards were brought up to the Front Gate of Erebor, with both chiefs in attendance.
  • Thorin was smug in the surety of Dain’s arrival swinging things in his favour and was displeased to see the Elves still among the Men.

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Reader: The Hobbit. Chapter 16 “A Thief In The Night”

The Hobbit Book CoverSummary Points

  • Thorin was getting OCD with Arkenstone possession.
    • The Arkenstone was worth A LOT.
  • Bilbo was getting the quavers with his Arkenstone possession.
  • Days passed, and finally ravens brought news that Dain was two days’ march away.

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Reader: The Hobbit. Chapter 15 “The Gathering of the Clouds”

The Hobbit Book CoverSummary Points

  • The Company had company, in the form of birds, and especially the old thrush.
  • Ravens were different from crows. and the Dwarves were acquainted with the ones who used to live in Erebor. Ravens are long-lived and could converse in the speech of men.

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